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This is mostly for beginners in our Rocky River TU Fly tying Class, but feel free to download something if it is of interest.

The introduction to this page was updated on September 19, 2016.  Here is the class schedule for 2016/ 2017.

Most of my fly tying efforts are for my own fishing and also teaching others.  Our local Trout Unlimited Chapter RRTU which stands for Rocky River Trout Unlimited, started a fly tying program in November of 2008.  It has turned out to be pretty successful since we have picked up lots of new members and over the years we have turned out some pretty talented tiers.  I have been teaching the beginners, Tom Adams teaches the pros because he is very skilled.  Alen Baker helps us all and fills in when someone has a conflict.  In addition we have several in our group who help when needed.  This year we have had a lot of beginners so thank you to George Flazar, Brian Esque, and Tim Ramsey.
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Location: Our meetings are held in the Fellowship Hall at Covenant Presbyterian Church. The church is at the corner of Dilworth Road and East Morehead Street.  This is the same place that we have our monthly TU meetings.  The actual address is                     
1000 E Morehead Street
Charlotte, NC 28204

Time: Classes run from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM.  We will send someone out for Hoagies about Noon: cost is $5:00 if you want one. We will call in to the Harris Teeter on East Blvd. the number of sandwiches desired at about 10:30 to 11:00 based on the number of people attending and who wants a sandwich.

Dates: We have five sessions from Fall to early Spring. Here are the dates... all Saturdays.
November 12, 2016
December 10, 2016    (This is a change from the December 3, 2016)
January 14, 2017
February 11, 2017
March 11, 2017

Charges: We have a good deal.  The total charges for all five sessions is $10.00.  We have 8 “rotary” fly tying vices, and provide all the material for the fly tying.  Many beginners end up purchasing their own vice as the sessions continue.
The most current information is below this line.

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March 9, 2017
This is a little short on notice, but all of you should know the drill by now.  The last class for the season is this Saturday March 11th.  I might add more here between now and Saturday morning, so check back in.  Tom Adams is to tell me what he is going to be tying for the advanced group

Meanwhile, even though I work with the beginners, I choose to end the sessions by tying various flies that are proven to work and also show you something new that you will encounter in the future.  One of those subjects is the use of UV cured flies.  This is a glue like material one spreads over the body of the fly.  This is cured by a UV light.  If you care to you can take the fly out into the sunshine and it will cure in less than 10 seconds.

The first UV material that I used did not cure immediately and left a slightly sticky film on the surface.  This could be wiped off with alcohol,  but that left a glaze over the fly.  I found that a coating of clear nail polish would retain the glow and texture, but it was a step I did not like taking.  I will continue to use my Bug-Bond (Original-Lite) until I use it up.  I think there are some newer materials that do not leave this sticky haze.

This UV stuff is pretty neat and here a couple of photos.  I will get these loaded Friday so come back and take a look.

xxx  Rainbow Warrior and some other photos here.

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You can see more of the Rainbow Warrior here.  I also have posted some photos of the girdle bug.  My plan is to add photos of all the flies we tied this year to individual pages.

  February 8, 2017
Lately it has been warm enough to do some trout fishing, but I haven’t made it yet.  Our 4th fly tying class will be held this coming Saturday February 11, 2017 at the usual location (see above for details.  We only have one more class after this in March.

We had a tremendous turnout in January with 14 tiers in the Beginners Group.  What we have learned so far will give you a chance to follow those YouTube videos.  Sometimes the tiers leave out a few steps and it is hard to follow, especially if you are new to fly tying.

We have been tying classic flies most of which have been around for many years.  Personally I stay away from some of the “modern” flies.  I will tie some egg patters and confess to having tied some Y2Ks.  But the Squirmy Wormie and the Mop fly are off limits for me now.  Who knows I might change.  I try to teach the basics so that as we go from month to month each session uses skills we performed at an earlier session.

For those of you attended the January meeting where I demonstrated tying the Dover Peach Fly, I have a little story.  I was fishing next to a very capable fly fisherman on the Tuckaseegee.  He was using a Mop Fly, and I was using a Peach Fly and was catching just as many as he was.  We can talk about that at our meeting.

We will be tying the Parachute Adams and some other Parachute flies.  It so happens that Tom Adams is planning on tying dry flies also.  He will be tying a Quill Gordon Parachute, the CDC Caddis, the Blond Wulff, and probably several others.  We will start by watching Tom tie the Parachute Quill Gordon.  Then the beginners will go back to their vices and tie the Parachute Adams and other flies.

.  When I first started getting serious about fly tying, I found a web site called Fly Anglers on Line and a guy named Al Campbell.  I had not thought of Al for a long time but in looking up information about the Adams, I came across Al’s name again. Al died early in life, but he still lingers on through the Internet.  This was published before the videos we see now, but some of this comments are perfect.  I think all of you should read it.                                                                       http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/intermediate/part21.php

Check out this video for tying the Parachute Adams.  There are lots of videos and this is just one of them that demonstrates the Parachute Adams.
http://intheriffle.com/fishing-videos/fly-tying/parachute-adams/

Jack


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January 11, 2016
Fly Tying Class is this Saturday, January 14, 2016

All of our new vices are in so we have a total of 8 (eight).  We also have received eight (8)Fly tying lamps which will be a big help. The board provided us with some funds to upgrade, and these are two the things we have done.  Now that we have done so, I don’t know how we will store them.  The vices do not really create a problem, but the lamps do.  They came in one carton and that weighs about 40 lbs.

 For the first several years Tom Adams kept up with the equipment and brought everything to the fly tying classes, plus he brought the vices and materials for the beginners class too.  I took over the vices etc for the beginners and that has been going pretty well.  

Don’t forget that the regular TU meeting is this coming Thursday January 19th will not be at Covenant Presbyterian Church..  The meeting will be at Meet and Greet at  Heist Brewery, 2909 N Davidson Street #200, Charlotte, NC 28205

Tom Adams will be tying emergers some six different types for the advanced tiers.

Beginners will be tying the flies maked in Bold Red

Adams Dry
Elk Hair Caddis
Girdle Bug (Stonefly)
Half & Half Streamer
Hare's Ear Nymph
Partridge Soft Hackle
Peacock Red Butt
Griffith Knat

Pheasant Tail Nymph
Wooly Bugger
Zebra Midge Improved

 

December 29, 2016
We are in the process of getting some more vices for the class.  Presently, we have 6 vices and 8 Fly Tying Kits.  It has been a constant battle to keep these kits up to date.  We have a system now and actually inventory the list in each kit at each session.

I have done some investigation and have written up the details in case some of the beginners or others want to see what is out there in the way of vices.  Check this out about the Zephr EZ Rotary vice which is the brand name of our existing vices.  There are a couple of videos and if you are looking, you will learn something.

December 10, 2016
 We tied the Pheasant Tail Nymph, the Hare’s ear, and finished with Zebra Midge... black thread body with silver wire on a silver bead.  There are lots of variations for the Zebra Midge and here is an interesting one using a silver glass bead. 

November 12, 2016
On the November Fly Tying Class, we had the usual explanation of the fly tying tools and how to use them.  later in the day we tied several Wooly Buggers.  We had a big turnout with about 8 beginners.  I would say we got off to an excellent start.

Preview for Fly Tying Classes for 2016 / 2017   All that is written in dark Blue can be skipped if you want to go to the most recent addition.  Above the BLUE will be information about what the most recent addition is or has happened since the last session and a little about what is upcoming at the next class. 

Beginners:
Our class is open to anyone with fly tying experience or just a beginner.   We have remained flexible.  People do miss sessions, so for the beginner class we have a backup tier or two.  Alen Baker is the first backup and Tim Ramsey and  George Fleszar have helped out also.  This is important because the  first class is an introduction to the tools for fly tying. We go over all of them and then teach the students how to wrap thread in “touching turns” down the hook.

Each class builds on what we did the month before. As we go through the first day we will tie some simple flies.  As an example, we will add a tail of pheasant barbels to the hook. We then tie in about 12 Pheasant tail barbels up the hook shank and the next thing  you know we are finishing up a Pheasant tail nymph.  For the beginners, we will try to tie multiple flies on various hook sizes.  We start with a size 10 which is a fairly large hook and end up tying with a size 16. We will use different materials for the thorax and add a hot spot to the wing case. 

I like  to stick with the basics and traditional flies. As we discuss things about tying I like to explain how early tiers had to make do with what  they could catch, hunt, grow or snitch from their momma’s sewing bag.  These conversations and others about  how some of the early flies came into being are part of the learning  process.

How I go about teaching the first class is a little dependent on who is in  the class. Recently we have some parents bringing youngsters and that is a good thing. In general they all do well.  In many cases the youngsters tie better  then the adults.

 More about the  Advanced tiers.
Tom Adams and Alen Baker set their own agendas, and I usually check with Tom to see what he will be tying.  Both of them tie some pretty terrific flies and our class  has produced some excellent tiers, many with lots of talent.

Even though we have the Fly tying class information on the RRTU web site, I have been typing a message to the beginners to tell them what to expect at the next  session.  This season I will post more detailed information about the flies we tie in case someone wants to tie before the next class   I find this helpful and I almost always will put a link to my  web page about the class with a little more detail.

November Class: December 12,2016
Coming up in November the beginners will start with learning about and how to use the fly tying tools.  We will go through some basic skill lessons and then tie the Pheasant Tail Nymph in different sizes and different dressings.

I am not sure what the advanced tiers will be tying, because they usually discuss that among themselves.

December 10, 2016
 We tied the Pheasant Tail Nymph, the Hare’s ear, and finished with Zebra Midge... black thread body with silver wire on a silver bead.  There are lots of variations for the Zebra Midge and here is an interesting one using a silver glass bead. 

November 12, 2016
On the November Fly Tying Class, we had the usual explanation of the fly tying tools and how to use them.  later in the day we tied several Wooly Buggers.  We had a big turnout with about 8 beginners.  I would say we got off to an excellent start.

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March 12, 2016   Reminder that we will have the last session for this Spring this coming Saturday March 19, 2016. The beginners will be focused again on the importance of  Proportions when tying flies.  In our last session which was about Stone Flies, we did not have the proper materials to let all in the beginners class tie the flies appropriately.  I have rounded up all the correct materials so that we can tie the wired stonefly.  In the Riffle has a good video on the Wired Stonefly, and we should be able to duplicate Both two wired and three wired stonefly.    Here is what we hope to achieve.   Photo.   here.  I have it and will post soon.

I think it is important to read the article below about stone flies.  I found it extremely interesting because it tells us much about why we need to understand the history and habitat of the stoneflies world wide.

http://www.flycraftangling.com/index.asp?p=124

See you Saturday.  

Jack

January 25, 2016  Fly tying class that was snowed/iced out has been rescheduled for this coming Saturday  January 30th. 2016.

January 23, 2016 12:00 noon
We did not get the snow and ice that was expected but still the roads are still very icy in many places and some of our fly tying folks are some distance from Charlotte.  I see cities like” Waxhall, Hickory, Unionville SC, Indianland SC and Kannapolis, and Gastonia.  Traveling over icy roads at those distances is not a great idea.

One of our beginners emailed me that she was not coming because someone ran into her and she is being treated for a concussion. 

January 22, 2016-- 3:50 PM ....  Fly Tying Class will not be held on Saturday January 23 due to dangerous weather.   There is some talk about having the class reschduled for January 30th but that is not firm yet.

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January 21, 2016-- 9:00 AM ....Check here for information about Snow and Ice for Saturday Morning’s Class. We might have to cancel if the Church doesn’t open.  I assume the information will also be on the RRTU web site. www.rockyrivertu.org


For January 23, 2016  Fly tying class
It is less than a week before our January class.  I am sending a copy of the spread sheet that Tom Adams developed that goes along with the Hook Box.  If you like it and can use it, ok, if not that’s OK too.  The rest are notes below,  many of them since the last meeting. in December. 

See you Saturday January 23rd.
 

Jack

 

Our yearly schedule for our fly tying classes is for a total of 5 months: November, December, January, February and March.  Again this year the total cost for the 5 session whether you come to all five or just one is $10.00.

Here is 2016 remaining winter schedule for fly tying classes.
January 23, 2016
February 20, 2016
March 19, 2016

Our meetings are held in the Fellowship Hall at Covenant Presbyterian Church corner of Dilworth Road and East Blvd. Charlotte. NC.  Classes run from 9:00 AM to 3:00 PM.  We will send someone out for Hoagies about Noon: cost is $5:00 if you want one. We will call in to the Harris Teeter on East Blvd. the number of sandwiches desired at about 10:30 to 11:00 based on the number of people who want them.

The session in January we (the beginners class)  plan to tie elk hair caddis and other flies using elk, moose, and deer hair.  Like everyone there is a learning curve to fly tying.  Fortunately, in my earlier years fly fishing, I went out west and fished from the Blue Ribbon Fly Shop in West Yellowstone. Not only do they tie flies in their shop, but they hunt elk and deer and other animals.  They process the pelts for fly tiers and are very specific about what fur to use and where it comes from on the animal..  I bought a few patches from them, and they were so much superior to anything else I had tried or had access to.  The link below is a very interesting article about “Know Your Hair and Its Best Use. We will talk about this and try out various pelts to show you some of the differences.  I think you will find using different sections of pelts, it will be a little bit like trying out the various dubbing materials we used at the December meeting.

www.blue-ribbon-flies.com/how-to/blue_ribbon_hair_definitions/

I know there are a number of shops similar to Blue Ribbon Flies, so here is another one that is quite interesting.  It is hard to believe the number of items Chris Helm has in stock. Look at this view of the inside of his shop. Then browse around on the web site

http://www.whitetailflytieing.com/viewtheshop.php

 

(repeat from December). Hook Box I got this next  idea from Tom Adams and made some minor changes.   This is a Hook Box that I got from at Michael’s in Park Road Shopping Center.  The Fly Box is called a CraftMate, and is actually a bead box for people who do crafts.  It has sloping side which allows one to get the beads out easily.  Also in this case the box locks.   more

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Speaking of hooks, here is an interesting article that goes over the basics but is also more detailed and experienced fisherman will probably learn a few things.  http://www.leeroysramblings.com/fish_hook_ID.html

From www.loveflyfishing.com   Here is the Anatomy of a hook.  I will edit the photo and get rid of junk at some point.

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I have been having trouble loading the spread sheet into this program for you to download.  I think the simplest thing to do is to email everyone on the Fly Tying List a copy.  If you want it, there it if not that’s ok too.  If you show up on this site and want a copy, I will email it to you.  Just send me your email address.

We tied a Jumping Jack Flash at the end of Decembers class ... take a look.
 
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Information for December 16, 2015
Below are some useful printouts and other information. 

1.  You have in your fly tying kit several threads.  These spools of thread are all of the brand UNI and most of these spools are listed at 8 ought,   I found one that says Danville”s  210 Denier  Flat waxed Nylon.  For the time being the 8/0 size will work, but as you become more advanced, you will find that you have other choices.  The Link Using Denier to Standardize Fly Tying Thread.  http://mvff.tripod.com/Reference/Denier.pdf explains an important concept in fly tying.  We have talked about crowding the head of the fly and making the fly too bulky.  This article will  help.  It prints out to a couple of pages and is both interesting and important.

2.  You will be using brass beads and then Tungsten beads to add weight to your fly.  There are also Cone heads, barbell eyes and other methods to get your fly down toward the bottom faster.  Tungsten beads weigh more or less twice the weight of lead and much more than brass or glass beads.  Tungsten beads also cost around 44 cents each so they make the cost of the fly much much higher.  If you are going to lose flies in the trees and bushes or let the fish snap them off your leader/ tippet than learn some alternatives first.

Here is a Bead Chart which matches up the right sized bead with the hook.  It also shows both the inches and millimeters  which is a help.  I actually made a copy of this that fits in my wallet, and I can pull it out to check sizes when I am buying beads.  I never remember the various size and get confused with the mm and inches.

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3. Hook Box I got this next  idea from Tom Adams and made some minor changes.   This is a Hook Box that I got from at Michael’s in Park Road Shopping Center.  The Fly Box is called a CraftMate, and is actually a bead box for people who do crafts. I have been having trouble loading the spread sheet into this program for you to download.  I think the simplest thing to do is to email everyone on the Fly Tying List a copy.  If you want it, there it if not that’s ok too.  If you show up on this site and want a copy, I will email it to you.  Just send me your email address.

(This was done December 19th 2015)Tom Adams will be doing a demonstration on dubbing tomorrow Dec 16th. It should be very interesting and it is a skill you will want to have. 

I hope to have some more useful information to add to this page.  There are lots of good videos and articles that make for interested reading.  If you are a beginner, sometimes the videos on fly tying leave a few steps out, and once you get the basics you will find you can follow the videos because you will have learned many of the basic steps.

Jack McNeary   email me

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